senator ron johnson, member of the budget committee joining us now with his outlook. there will be like fireworks and celebrations if you guys just do anything. i know that probably doesn't make you happy because it doesn't address any of our long-term issues. but are we wrong to celebrate? >> oh, let's face it. the last thing anybody wants is a shutdown other than maybe harry reid and president obama distracting from the patient protection and affordable care act. i'm the right wing saying we need to use the full name. but no, the federal government does enough harm to our economy, day in and day out. the last thing we need is keep on additional harm by shutting down the government. i know republicans are absolu absolutely dedicated to fixing the long-term problem. but we certainly don't want a shutdown at all. i know paul ryan. and i think chairman murray are really working together to try to stabilize the situation, come up with something. if we can get some long-term mandatory reforms in exchange for, you know, some sequester relief, maybe plus up some defense, i